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Islamic Council of Victoria want ‘safe spaces’ for young Muslims to vent their anger

In seeking to divert funds away from futile ‘de- radicalization’ programs, the Islamic Council of Victoria is calling for the creation of tax- payer funded ‘safe spaces’, where young Muslims can express themselves ‘freely’

While this proposal is boundlessly absurd (imagine if the non- Islamic community of Australia seriously sought a non- Muslim safe space), it is not profoundly surprising.

So we are told that Muslims desire ‘safe spaces’ from the Australian public. And these safe spaces would be used to vent what, exactly? My guess is that such platforms would be used to espouse anti- Australian, anti- disbeliever sentiment, that much of the taqiyya- practicing mainstream dares not mention in public. For as Muslims fundamentally place their own brethren first, such avenues would escape the exposure that results from expressing Islamist thought in the public sphere.

But how ironic that Muslims who once fled for the safety of Australian shores, are now banding against the country who gave them so much?

Further, if current immigration trends continue to compound this predicament, Islamization accompanied by the silent majority of complicit Muslims, may be the great Trojan Horse of our time.

Irrespective of Islam’s war against the West, our political class will bear full responsibility for these problems, as best articulated by Al Wilson in his famous poem, ‘The Snake’ when he wrote: “Oh shut up, silly woman,” said the reptile with a grin.

“You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in.”

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The West, by Christopher Talbot, June 8, 2017:

The Islamic Council of Victoria is calling for tax-payer funded “safe spaces“ where young Muslims can express themselves openly, even if those views are “inflammatory”.

The council’s submission this month to a parliamentary inquiry on religious freedom is calling for federal counter terrorism and deradicalisation funding to be used for the program.

“Existing Commonwealth CVE and CT funding re-allocated to create safe spaces urgently needed by Muslim youth to meet and talk about a range of issues in emotional terms,” the ICV submission says.

“(A space) where they can be frank and even use words, which in a public space would sound inflammatory”.

The submission says young people are unable to express anger or use certain facial expressions without becoming a target for surveillance.

Victoria’s Multicultural Affairs Minister Robin Scott said the idea is “deeply unhelpful and wrong”.

“Under no circumstances would we support the diversion of state funding from counter terrorism initiatives for such a proposal,” he said in a statement on Friday.

One Nation Senator Pauline Hanson has called the proposal a “load of rubbish”.

“How much more money have we got to put into this? To make them feel good about themselves? I think it is absolute rubbish,” she told Sunrise on Thursday.

7 thoughts on “Islamic Council of Victoria want ‘safe spaces’ for young Muslims to vent their anger

  1. This is the idea behind the ‘safe spaces’;

    Mr Salman said “the idea behind the proposal was for youth to express their views in an environment where it could be challenged and counter arguments presented by experts in the field.”

    “And even where they hear of some speech that is perhaps a little bit extreme a little bit radical … we would expect there would be absolute experts managing that process for us”

    To me that sounds better than letting people stew on ideas privately.

    In your opinion what’s a better way to de-radicalise and extremist behaviour?

    1. ‘De radicalisation’ is a misunderstood word to begin with. Because it operates without first understanding that when Islamists blow themselves up, they believe that their actions are validated by God. Nothing can talk people out of this from a rational, secular perspective as the de radicalisation programs attempt to. I think we are better pulling all money from these programs and figure out which mosques are justifying sedition and jihad against Australia, and then close them down.

    2. From a hypothetical viewpoint that I was a young Muslim:
      Sees on news that the social support groups previously offered are being closed and that my local mosque will be investigated with the potential to be shut down.

      How do you think that would make me feel?

      I don’t think de-radicalisation is impossible. Look at suicide hotlines, sure some people will still take their lives and that 1% is inevitable but for the remainder whose lives are saved the program is invaluable. That’s all it is an opportunity for people to talk.

    3. If Catholic Churches have been surveilled and cracked down on for crimes against children (which rightly occurred), then the same should happen in mosques. This is what I would point out to your hypothetical young Muslim.

      Moreover, that so long as we allow Islamism to fester, Muslims will be the primary victims. Muslims have been killed in their hundreds of thousands due to Islamic terrorism, not to mention the honour killings, gay killings, blasphemy killings and apostasy killings prevalent in the Muslim world and to some extent present in the West. So Muslims are the biggest victims of Islam, so defending Islam is against their best interests.

      And as for de radicalisation, the comparison with suicide is a false equivalency. How can you hope to convince a jihadist not to take up arms, when they believe that their actions are validated by God and will see them with 72 virgins in heaven?

    4. I wasnt aware that the Catholic Church is under surveillance could you please link the articles.

      I don’t really think it’s a good idea to ‘protect Muslim people from Islam’ by shutting down mosques and limiting their right to religion. Also I’m sure despite closing mosques radicalisation would take place at any other venue, it’s a hopeless cause.

      According to Professor Greg Barton, an expert in counter-terrorism this is what should be encouraged;
      “What we need is a whole of society response to well-being if you like, where community members are quick to speak up when they have concerns about a person they care about because it is better to speak out than stay silent and see that person or others killed”

      http://www.smh.com.au/world/intelligence-sharing-and-community-the-key-to-curbing-terrorism-in-australia-20170604-gwjxxk.html

    5. Ok I’ll get to the other points later. But on the mosque issue: if someone openly advocated for the overthrow of our laws and country through violent means, they would be charged with sedition. But why should mosques act as a hiding space for jihadist preachers and the like? And should we simply wait for the bodies to stack up before we take proper action?

    6. Moreover, it’s one thing to tackle terrorism when it emerges, and it’s another to challenge it’s cultural and theological roots in our communities (in response to the counter terrorism article).

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